Wednesday, April 30, 2008

Sam Parker "Mickey Mantle" 2008 Medium: Pencil on paper from Project in Drawing class: "Drawing as Infinite Sketches of Ideas"


22 comments:

Quinn said...

i feel like i missed this piece or it just wasn't a performative work. if so, then im not sure what to say about it beyond technical comments (good and bad) and im not sure that's really necessary. - i'd love to comment again if i've missed something here.

sunairi said...

This work, I purposely let it unannounced believing in the dignity of Sam's recent will to change. I know that Sam was starting to get sick of conceptual art that are simply idiosyncratic and a lot of bullshit. In some ways, I respect his will to challenge that as well as even himself to work in more traditional medium.

This work's motif is stylistic, in a way it reminds me of Raymond Pettibone and his obsession with Good Old American baseball players.http://www.davidzwirner.com/artists/16/work_1405.htm

I have also noticed Sam was wearing a NY yankees baseball hat that day and it looked good with his regular "Happy Days" style or mod style. So, in some ways I consider what he was wearing as part of this work.

As a drawing, as Sam is approaching to choose the content in a quite conscious manner, I also seek more to see the development of his own style of drawing. The more Sam draws, the more it will reveal its strength of how it should be drawn. Thus, I look for more in the future as a series if Sam is invested in this content.

I respect the integrity to change and look forward to more development.

Sam Parker said...

there was no performance with this work.

i wanted to draw a physical gesture.

i am sure the piece was missed in the flux of wacky performances, and that was a nice unintended result.

my attitude towards the assignment is perhaps mirrored by mantle's home run hit.
there is a negative nature in my intent (the hit) that yields something confident and isolated
(a formal pencil drawing in a flummox of performances)

Irina said...

I appreciate that you made a drawing, because your rug really sort of broke me. I hope when you say "wacky" you don't mean it in a condescending way. I noticed the fact that you were wearing a sports hat too, and I was actually wondering what the hell you were going to do. So a drawing is good. I agree, conceptual art is bullshit.

Irina said...

nevermind the wacky part

Quinn said...

i'm not sure what you meant by negative nature of your intent, but once i read that you just wanted to draw a physical gesture i had to laugh at myself and say, 'oh, of course.' to me, that's very dead-pan humor ...it seems you were conscious of your own literal interpretation of the assignment. now, i find the work both bold and humorous. perhaps, in your attempt to distance yourself from conceptualism, this wasn't the kind of response you would've hoped for, but i find the piece very much in line with, say, the work of richard prince. as i've already sort of stated, i like how this work, unlike most of the other works presented, directly functions in relation to the title of the assignment - turning it on its head. maybe, through your distaste for conceptualism, you've actually managed to make a highly successful conceptual piece...

Grace said...

going back to what sam said about not being a performance piece - i think the fact that you actually wore a yankees hat kind of made it part performance. i didnt get it at first - the drawing part - and i kind of still don't...and i don't understand your "negative nature of intent" either...care to elaborate?

Raymie Tand said...

Although this wasn't a traditional performance piece, i did like how it stood out from the rest, taking that risk to make the performance come from our voices, or perhaps our critique itself. The technical aspect of the work was good. I agree with grace about the yankee cap since it is so unlike your daily wardrobe to put a hat on like that. But even if your intent is just to make a drawing, i liked it, it was a strong drawing and i dont think art always has to be something more, it can be what it is pencil on paper. but that is an entire different conversation

kerry said...

I don't know... performance-whatever aside, it was pretty great to see a drawing for a final assignment in a drawing class. And as far as drawing "physical gestures" go - to solve that with "oh, baseball!" and/or "oh, Mickey Mantle!", seemed pretty well aware of itself... and I appreciate that there seems to be no desire on your part for anyone to go too far into it.

addie price said...

I actually really like the simple gesture of this piece and think its really funny, a documentation of a performance as a performance in a drawing class. I kept looking at the drawing, waiting for sam to do something with it, but i really love that he never did.

romina said...

This piece definitely stood out from the rest. I really enjoyed its simplicity and how straight forward it was. I agree with rest when they say this wasn't a traditional performance piece.

sooyeon said...

There is an action within a drawing. When I first saw the drawing, first impression I've got was what is this? However, as I look into more closely, it was interesting to see how he used traditional medium (like Hiroshi said) and turn it into somewhat performance piece. Performance piece doesn't have to involve any movements!

Sylvia said...

(I laughed at the rug comment. It was silly. My porn compares nicely to it. We should all just bring in found objects and let others create BS explanations.)

Running with the BS idea, at first the drawing did nothing for me. Well, maybe it still does nothing for me. I didn't even notice you wearing a Yankees hat. I hope I wasn't ignoring you/your work because it was unmemorable, but maybe I was. If that's the case, I guess it goes great with what the others are saying? It seems like it was overlooked for the other 'wacky' art, as you put it. Makes sense. I'm glad I read your comment before I posted; I'm sure I would have written something like 'NO.' And that's it.

We're all definitely spewing some extra special bullshit for this one.

YoPsycheDahCho said...

when did we ever collectively look at this piece??? i just saw hiroshi take pictures of it, but we never stopped and took the time to take it in. perhaps this is arbitrary.

when i see figures in action like this, i always think of sports trophies, and sometimes even Greek friezes, or statues of Greek gods. there is something about taking pictures or drawing moments of action that immortalizes the event...so much so that the action becomes a lot more than just hitting a ball. there is a whole cultural conscience to the act of batting; a whole sense of sports hero. remember the Greek status of the man about to hurl the discus? man + sports equates = manly honor/individual valor/etc.

all work is conceptual. all work has content. whether or not the artist intends to, the viewer brings associations that more or less become a part of the piece as well. i don't believe that since the medium of sam's piece is traditional it isn't conceptual art.

Annie Cho.

eunji said...

although i didn't see it as a performance piece, i could see some wild movement in the drawing since this drawing captures a moment within a movement. i feel like this guy in the drawing would come out of the paper and finish hitting the ball or something at any moment. i also felt good to see finally a traditional drawing in drawing class.

Ali said...

I second Annie's comment about all work being conceptual and all work having content. However, I do very much appreciate what you were doing with this work, and how you decided to explain it in your comment. The fact that everyone was trying to force it into some kind of performance because you were wearing a Yankees hat makes it even funnier.

aubrey saget said...

at first i wasn't sure what to think except it's kinda nice to see a drawing up for this assignment. as i kept looking over at the drawing throughout class and occasionally glancing at sam in his baseball cap, it resonated with me and i began to appreciate it more and more. The way you actually rendered the drawing in mid hit works nicely. i found the piece as a whole to be humorous and engaging in its subtle way.

britzb said...

I don’t get the negative nature to the work, but I like your unapologetic tone. I read an interview with Raymond Pettibon, whom Hiroshi mentioned earlier, where he said there should never be any apologies in art. While, I don’t think the gesture was unconventional or totally free, I think you have shown a luke-warm stoicism in class that relates to this piece in the sense that you feel most comfortable working outside the thematic/material/whatever constraints set forth by our prompts. I called attention to the gesture as luke-warm or safe, because I don’t think this piece feels entirely free of the prompt, there is a consciousness (as illustrated in your own description) to the literal performative properties of drawing or mark-making that I would have like to see escaped. I’m really not sure what I was looking for in this piece in context to the assignment, certainly not a “fuck you” from the artist, but either way I do enjoy the drawing itself. I agree with Hiroshi that the crude, comic, and economical style of drawing really reminds me of Raymond Pettibon, whom I have always loved. I didn’t notice the hat as a performative device, and would like to keep the two separate, as I don’t think it would aid this piece. I’d love to see more drawings executed in this style.
-Brenden

Brittanie said...

You trapped a performance in a two dimensional drawing. The blatant refusal to perform is funny, and I like that. It's also nice to finally see something you have drawn, Parker! Nicely done.

Bo said...

The piece was very funny and somewhat a one-liner, but at the same time, the thought process it took to reach the product was very intelligent and complex so i think the end prodeuct seemed strong and refined

Caitlin said...

clever clever

jess Teicher said...

I love this piece. I really appreciate the fact that this was your "performance" and you, in fact, did not feel the need to perform. The drawings are technically good. I love that it fits so closely with American culture (I LOVE the American culture!!)